Hello everyone, welcome to Institute forum. This is the new normal moment. We have an opportunity to gather as one eye pH family in this regular colloquium of the forum is taken on new meaning. As we all work differently. And some of us are working highly effectively. Coping very well. Others may not be, and one of the things that we want to touch on today is really understanding. The differences of our experience is what provisions we might need to put in place. Are we fully understanding this new way of working? As we are very much in the spotlight. In the middle of a large pandemic that has. I focus on our research, but also in our social and civic. Function in wider society and it's a lot of pressure for a lot of people. There's wonderful responses being made, but today we really want to dig into your experiences and understand how we move forward doing even better. So for those of you who haven't joined us before, just as few introductions, I'm in bucket, I'm executive Dean of the Institute of Population Health. German. Hi, I'm Joe Harold. I'm the team for Department of Psychology. Francy what can summer professor in public health? But I'm also the deputy. A PVC for education for the faculty. Thank you Marta. Hi everyone, I hope all you are keeping well so this is Marta Raffini Anna and I'm the interim head of Department for health data science. Thank you Tom. I run I'm Tom West, the head of operations for the Institute. Thanks Ross. Hi everyone, I'm Ross white, the interim head of Department for primary care mental health. Thanks, Sally. Hello, I'm Sally sheard. I'm head of the Department of Public Health Policy and Systems. Thanks Charles. Thanks and yeah Charles Lee. I'm the deputy executive Dean of the Institute. Thanks, Charles Denise. Hello everyone, I'm Denise Prescott. Now I'm Dean of the School of Health Sciences. Baxter alright. Hello everyone, I'm Laurence Allison at 9 professor of frenzy. Can adjust if psychology in the psychology Department. Thank you so. Charles, you're going to give us a ref research strategy update. Every team. OK, thanks and yeah, not a great deal to say about Ref. Actually colleagues that hasn't been said already. Just to remind you that we're. Ref date has been put back. The Rift sensor state. Sorry, not the sensor state. The submission date has been pushed back to March but. We are still working to the same internal deadlines so we have. The deadline and upcoming deadline, which is causing many of us working on you 082 and you're a forward tower which are out to you. As in I pH quite a lot of stress at the moment so all of you who would helping with those huge thank you. We are submitting drafts to faculty on I think around the 7th of November so we have about. Two more weeks. Um we so. Colleagues should have received updates about the most recent round of Reading program on outputs. If you haven't received. Any feedback please do let us know. The general call really that we can submit outputs which are in the public domain by the 31st of December. So if you do have outputs which are. Not currently nominated on elements please. Please do make sure check your elements. Profiles and make sure that you have nominated outputs that you think may should be considered for inclusion in our REF submission, so we still have time to do that. We're using external referees as well of course, in addition to the reading program data. To select outputs. And the other thing I would say is it's just a reminder that for staff to staff who may be considering submitting personal circumstances to please do do so by the 30th of October. So that's the end of next week there was an email sent around 2 weeks ago. To staff reminding there any staff who may be considering putting in a request for personal circumstances in relation to their ref submissions, please do that by October 30th. This is also particularly relevant for any ERS who who will be eligible to submit personal circumstances for F. If you have been in post. By August the 31st sorry August the 1st 2016 and it was your first substantive post. You are eligible to submit personal circumstances if you are considering doing that. As I say, the key date to submit the paperwork to faculty is the end of this month. October the 30th. More broadly, just around the Institute we have now set up. And met as set up the Institute research and Impact Committee and we we have now met for the first time. We will be meeting on a monthly basis. That committee is represented. Each Department is represented on that committee by your research. Lead your departmental research lead. In case you don't know who those are, Julian Pine is the research lead for for psychology. Mark Gabby for primary care and mental health. Katherine Tudor Smith is the research lead for HD S Martino Flaherty is the research lead for public health, School of Healthcare Sciences. Such leaders Joe Patterson. So if you have any issues and points that you want us to consider Institute research and Impact Committee, please do get in touch with your Department or research leads. One of the key issues which we will be discussing is at the next meeting, which is next week is around cost recovery from grant applications. The University is under. I just want to mention this very briefly. While I have everyone online since it's a very topical issue. We will be aware of is an expectation for the can't the sum total of UL contributors to cost themselves at 20% time allocation and this policy has been causing some issues for a variety of reasons. Particularly in that any exceptions to that 20% expectation required Dean approval. As the policy is currently stated, then some lack of clarity in what exceptions can be applied for. The policy doesn't make explicit reference to situations where, for example, you may be code investigator on an award. And or you may be an investigator, a Co investigator on an award which is externally LED and driven by the funding policy of the lead organization. So Tom and I have flagged some of these issues which come up repeatedly. To the Rs. Oh and we will be taking that forward with the Rs. Oh and discussing the issue internally at the Institute Research and Impact Committee, we want to make sure that we have an open and transparent system in place within the Institute for dealing with requests for exceptions to the 20% expectation. So that we can ensure that we're applying similar guidelines consistently across departments. To be fair to researchers. So the last thing we want to do is put in place an additional barrier to discourage people from submitting grants. If you have any very strong views about this issue, please do get in touch with your research leads in your respective Department says we will be discussing this at Institute research and Impact Committee, and I think that's pretty much all I have to say at this point here. Thanks Charles, yes and I'm just to emphasize we all of us this is this is our University and this is our set of guidelines to maximize the long term health and productivity in research. So we need your opinions. We need your experiences to feed in to dynamic policies that maximize the benefits for all of us of having those policies in place. And have the cost recovery and research works for the best possible outputs. So please influence that your voice counts. Staff survey Tom, you're going to take us through the staff server. You're on mute. Sorry, classic era. Did we want to update the schools? First from Joe and. Denise, or do you want me to go straight into the survey? We can just just just go straight into the server and then we'll take Jones great. OK so I will try and share my screen so I will give you a little bit of. Context to what we're looking at now just give me one second, so we're going to do this. So we have a number of surveys that the University has run in the last 12 months. Let me see if this is the sharing. Yeah have can everybody see that at least the panel cannot yet. Then I I'm confident with the rest of us can see it so. We had an all staff server you may remember that was run back in November, December, the end of last year, which feels like a lot more than a year ago in terms of the environment we were in and the issues that we were facing an partly as a reflection of that the University ran a shorter what it called the Pulse survey back in. Think it was July. Over the summer, now just to qualify this survey, both the staff survey and the Pulse survey will run based on where people sit in the old structure. So because we haven't been able to make all of the systems changes yet, which will come in the new year where people reported into how the results have been aggregated are by the old departmental structure and school structure, so that makes it a little bit difficult for us to extrapolate the results. As as an Institute, so that's just to sort of qualify. Qualify what you're seeing there. So let me just. Advance it over OK so. Well, I'm presenting here is a couple of slides which show some of the feedback we got in the Pulse survey. Obviously the Pulse survey changed from the questions to look specifically at how staff felt we'd been responding to the recent situation, the pandemic, so. This first section. This summary is around communication and involvement. Now what you can see here is that in the original survey, so we can only get the breakdown for the old Institute of Population Health Sciences and the old Institutes of Life and Human Sciences. So again, it's not necessarily representative, but in the original staff survey, 106 respondents, and then 67 for the Pulse survey bit lower in life and human Sciences for the Pulse survey results, but it gives us some interesting. Insights, so communication was a critical. Area where we saw a huge swing in terms of people's perception. And we can see here what I've done is imposed. The previous results from the staff survey so. Back in the end of last year, when people were asked whether they felt well informed about what was happening at the University, only 49% of people in. In population, Health Sciences felt that they felt well informed and that increased to 77% of those who responded. When we asked again July. So this is a big swing there and then again. We see a similar sort of swing for life and human scientists, again bearing in mind the smaller population, but things. I'm have gone the other way that. Is in green. It should have been in red because actually. People feeling that their opinions are sought on decisions affecting their work is actually lower now, so that should be read minus read percentage point swing. And likewise, not not so pronounced in life and human Sciences, that's actually gone the other way. But you might expect that during a crisis people feel they are being well communicated with with, but not necessarily involved in decisions around engagement. There were some knew questions that were put into the Pulse survey, so feeling connected to colleagues in other areas and feeling connected within the school and Department. And again that not the similar pattern, certainly. Population Health Sciences. Quite a low score there for the sense of connection within an area and across Department. And the only question that that was compara bulto the previous staff survey was around feeling part of the University and again as the sort of small negative positive fluctuations there and then. Finally, this set of questions on well being. Again, the things you would expect around dealing with pressures feeling that workload is manageable feel that University understands and cares about health and well being, and these are some of the shifts we saw from the previous staff server. So Interestingly, not an awful lot of movement there in some areas, but this is these are some of the questions we want to look at. And start to unpick together. So there will be an opportunity to. We're going to ask some questions during this forum, but we're going to start to put together an action plan around some of the areas where we particularly feel we've got evidence that staff generally have a sense that things aren't working as well as they could be. And so these were a couple of the emerging themes around people's sense of involvement in decisions which affect their work. That connections to colleagues within their own teams, which is obviously understandable as we're all moving moved offsite, but connections to colleagues across the institutes. The manageability of workload and general health and well being. So these are some of the things that we want to start to pick up, so we're going to be launching our own knew questionnaire within the Institute, which is specific for our Institute, and it will enable us to sort of dig in a little bit to some of these questions and give you an opportunity to feedback on a much more sort of individual level. So that we can try and put together some responses and interventions where that's going to be helpful. So a little bit later in the forum will ask some questions of everybody. And Lawrence is going to talk to us a bit about how we kind of respond and engage with the next stage of both our kind of work and personal lives as we look ahead to sort of hit the period between now and Christmas. So watch this space for. Survey will be coming out. We've got colleagues helping me out with the design of that and if you have any ideas or thoughts as to what we should be doing, do let me know so I will. We will also try and make these results available to everybody 'cause I appreciate it's quite hard to see in a brief. So small slides that are put up quickly, so we will think about make how we can best make this information available to staff. I'm so I think that's all I wanted to say on that, and then I'll hand back over to Ian. Thanks, Tom. So you have an opportunity not just to familiarize yourself with answering questions. We're going to use some questions when we've heard from Joan Denise on school update. We really do value your input, so please answer the questions that pop up online are very unconscious as well. There's a new type of inequality in managing. Some of us have lots of resource is. To work effectively from home, some of us, it's more of a struggle and we need to unpick that. We need to understand and prepare and support one another so these surveys are becoming increasingly important and digging into the detail of the responses in subsequent surveys equally will be it will be extremely important to this leadership team particularly. Joe, I hand over field for your update. You're on mute. OK, so I just want to update you on events in Department psychology since the last forum. As you might anticipate, a lot of our efforts have been oriented towards teaching, but it's not our only activity, so I will briefly update in terms of research and also the Department restructure as well. As for most. Speak for the University. We've had a very busy summer. One of our main actions was oriented towards admissions, an after the A level results fiasco. We're in a situation where we have between 70 and 80 students above. Target them, so more than anticipated, so we're currently recruiting to three new lectureships to help cope with the additional teaching demands. Those adverts actually went live at the end of last week, so if I could it encourage everyone to please direct those around your networks to try and make sure we have as a broader pool of applicants as possible to ensure we get the best intake for those roles. And before I forget, I just want to extend thanks to our admissions teams, particularly do Smith for help. Join this time. Beyond admissions, the activity that's really engaged. Most staff is preparing for the new hybrid approach to teaching. So regardless of which tear the teaching is in, the real novel aspect is the synchronous online teaching. So staffers spent a lot of time adapting themselves to this approach, and we've had some excellence, innovative ideas. Examples include ethical dilemmas, we've got paper critiques and Ebates word clouds, marketing experiments, and many more as well, that our students are. And have the opportunities to engage in. You all know that we're facing now at Tier 3 in terms of teaching, and that move came quite late in terms of the start of the academic term in psychology. So Tier 3 all of our teaching is online in psychology, and that has brought a couple of issues, the main one being in terms of generating the links for staff and students to get access to the teaching sessions. So initially we signed up to a program that CSD were running, which is designed to ensure those links are generated across all teaching events. On a weekly basis, and it became clear pretty quickly towards that there were lots of teething problems, and for our students experience and Staffs honesty, we very quickly withdrew from that program and are managing the generation of the links in house. I want to extend. Thanks to Helen Hubbard from our students experience team, there was stepped in and worked tirelessly to make sure that everyone is directed to the right places at the right time. And I also just want to thank staff for their patience. I'm frequently take on this additional effort really is beneficial. Another issue that we're dealing with is around the need to create closed captions on our teaching to ensure it's all inclusive and available to everybody. I don't know if any of you experienced the closed captions. They can be quite laughable in terms of how they interpret the content of the lectures. They can sometimes be quite offensive. To ensure that all students have the best access stuff or taking time to edit those captions on. This is quite an arduous task. For again, it makes sure our students have the best experience of teaching. So again, thanks to the staff for taking this on board. But I'm I'm just really pleased to say that we are getting rewards for all of these efforts, so we're into the second week of our teaching and the feedback from staff, and particularly the students around the online teaching, is excellent. An staff reporting that by large the students are all engaging really well, so this is really positive moving forward and we're really enjoying interacting with our students again. Conscious that the interactions have to extend beyond teaching 'cause we have to provide a supportive environments, particularly as well. Where can remotely and I belong in this team which is led by Manila Lions on Yogi? One of our demonstrators are really excelling themselves in terms of the activities. So during welcome and Foundation Week we had quizzes across the year group to be hard academic speed dating, which is essentially a way of the students get to know this stuff a bit more informally and then plans moving forward for this semester we've got. A forensic psychology murder mystery evening we've got a film night with the panel. We've got some Latin American cookery sessions. We've got live detection workshops, Halloween fancy dress, obviously obligatory Christmas quizzes and many many more. We're also conscious that we need to reach out to each other as well to make up for those ad hoc corridor and kitchen chats that are not getting. So we're planning staff coffee morning and stuff kitchens and also something you can probably relate to is a pest coffee morning as well. So those, cats, dogs and whatever other pets people have. Who Obama teaching sessions they're going to have their own forum where they can come out and be involved. As I say, that's all about teaching were not just teaching and I'm really pleased to say that we are able to start making progress towards our recommencing our research. So the RB now has covid secure status and that means you've been able to ramp up focusing on guessing the large ready, making sure that they are covert, secure staff are updating the risk assessments and fix applications, and we really hope to be able to commence activities soon. I just want to thank Tom and also Nicola Williams. Forget most of this stage and be able to move forward in terms of research. I'm also really pleased to report that we are still having lots of applications moving forward with funding and encouragingly over the last couple of months. Our early career researchers have really been active in this forum to applications for PhD funding and for pump priming, and we're hoping that we're going to reap benefits from these in a couple of months moving forward. And then just finally to update you on the Department restructure. So obviously the new Department is the formation of the old Department, psychological Sciences and the School of Psychology. So today's what we've done is we've all of our committees, and I replace an largely are staffed, and we've mapped the existing TNS staff to our research groups at a temporary profile, and it's just to create a structure through which we can then establish our new status as a Department. So the next stage will come on Friday when we have our next Department meeting and this is we're going to agree. Our vision statement on our aims and then hopefully before Christmas will agree the final structure with research to put something into moving forward. So at the risk of repeating myself, I just want to say thank you to all the stuff for your excellent contribution an support. Thank you thanks Joe announcer, huge thank you from all of us. Such exceptional efforts, brilliant efforts in exceptional times. Note the little book box at the bottom. Mark Q&A on soon and any questions that are in your mind give feel free to post them in that question section. Lawrence will be introducing later when he speaks some of the more formal questions that would just pop up on the screen. But anytime you can just ask questions in the queue and able. Denise about you for your update. Thank you. Good afternoon everyone. I hope you're keeping well despite the challenging circumstances. As is the case rule of the schools across the faculty, this has been a really busy period of time requiring all of our staff to be as adaptable and agile as possible. And as Joe alluded to, following the events that surrounded the alevel results in the summer or undergraduate student numbers increased across all of our programs, the faculty were good in that they supported us with additional posts and they've gone out to advert. And well, I have to say this has provided some interesting timetable challenges, but so far so good. As a school which has clinical programs with associated professional and regulatory body requirements, our undergraduate programs have been delivering essential face to face clinical skills teaching for several weeks now. And this teaching delivery is had numerous practical challenges, as I'm sure you can imagine having thermometers, guns in the reception of the buildings and getting students to queue at a socially distance places has been a real challenge 'cause they all want to talk to each other. And we've had a mountain of PPE which is arrived, and we've had to accommodate and but one of our main issues has been multiple deliveries of small group teaching sessions to make sure that everybody is kept safe and sound. And I am truly grateful for the help of Tom Weston. John Vickery, who worked tirelessly to ensure that our practical teaching environments were safe as possible for both the staff and the students. So thank you very much. And something slightly different. The school recently submitted a bid to health Education England for funding to develop a preregistration MSC diagnostic radiography program and two additional Masters level modules in computerized tomography and magnetic resonance imaging. BID was successful and we've received over £150,000 to support the the development of this work and as a school we have identified an ambitious post graduate development portfolio program for the next two years with another three preregistration MSE programs in development in mental health, nursing, occupational therapy and physiotherapy. And we're also developing an MSE cancer care which is being developed in partnership with Clatterbridge Cancer Centre and we really see that this will provide opportunities for research going forward. As a fledgling research school, we delivered our first online research festival in September. This was in collaboration with our clinical partners across the Cheshire and Mercy Patch and over 200 academics and clinicians registered for the event. And the event was well received and I personally have had lots of positive feedback about the event and the need to have these more regularly. I would like to thank Professor Joe Patterson and everyone else who was involved in the delivery of this event. There has been a great deal of interest in this and we're looking forward to the future really as we take our baby steps in. This regards. And in particular, there was a lot of interest in submitting bids for NIH are fellowships, either predoctoral postdoctoral. An and in December the school will be delivering a webinar outlining the types of support available for those considering a fellowship submission, and I think it would be fair to say that as a school we're on a learning curve where this is concerned and the complexities of the finances across different institutes is an absolute minefield. But this being said, I'm very pleased to state that Mark Warren in radiotherapy successfully navigated stage one of his NIH are. Doctoral application and is currently preparing for the next stage. We really do wish him well. It's a really big step for him. And finally, as Joe is just concurred and academic and professional service staff across the Board of Work tirelessly since March, they've amended module paperwork, adapted the learning and teaching delivery, and I must have to say that we've learned much along the way in terms of innovative delivery. We've accommodated major timetable tabling changes. Moved into a new Institute structure and transferred many of our programs onto a new virtual teaching platform, and. And experienced some hitches along the way. And as Joe also said, we've had to accommodate the inclusion of closed captions on all our teaching materials, and that has been a considerable effort on everyone's part. During the past six months, there have been a lot of changes and I must say that I am immensely proud of all the stuff in the School of Health Sciences, their hard work, and determination to ensure that every one of our students receives a high-quality learning and teaching experience is demonstrated on a daily basis. Thank you everyone. Thank you Dennis. And we focused here just on two schools today because the update I'm teaching is so important. As so many efforts been made over the summer to make these sudden changes possible and very high quality. So a huge thanks to everyone. Let me just move now to a few quick updates on figures comparing different universities. A number of you, Avast. What is the pattern at the moment of infections? There's a lot in the press. Of what's happening, but here are the facts. As of yesterday, we asked around the Russell Group universities. What their their current statistics work? This is, this is our statistics and from our testing. Data that come from our own testing center and also we include test results. People report from other places and this is. This picture is is is what we're seeing as a result. Of pretty tight control measures at the University of Liverpool, if I compare and contrast with the physical and the behavioral. Measures that are being taken on other campuses. We are. Tighter than most and we started earlier. So what we're seeing here Pop from the batch effect due to said lab capacity. Opening up, we're seeing a pretty flat curve. And this coincides with students arriving. There is some effect of increasing test capacity, but then that smooths out and we're hitting the other side. Remember that our University started a week later. The most so just remember this seven day rolling average, which is the most common statistic used to think about where we are in a wave curve of an epidemic, and this is relatively contained environment of a University, so we can see. Consider this at almost discrete epidemic curve. With some input imports and exports at the boundaries. If I now compare this with the University of Manchester, there were all almost four to five times the number of the rate. Actually, the proportion of students coming back mixing who were testing positive. Even adjusting for any differences at in testing patterns, that is a pretty steep. Peak, which then dies down. University of Manchester moves in to Tier 3. After teaching, we moved into T3 at the same time as teaching so we don't have a face to face teaching inference. We trying to make. For miss others, do let me move on to some other universities Newcastle. Again, very high numbers on arrival mix. With this big Peak Peak and you're starting to see a balance. Cycles do happen. You can't make this inference from a single curve. But if we now start thinking across the University curves of what's going on. His Sheffield and Leeds. On arrival mix. Curve. I would assume that the availability of testing and patterns is different in different universities. So we're not even being artifact of test testing patterns and availability unless they all have the same which they don't. So this seems to be a biological and behavioral environmental phenomenon. Initial arriving mix and then a bump. We may see cycles further on. But our comparison from the University of Liverpool is that we have a pretty flat curve. So it seems in terms of control measures, we're doing a reasonably one. Edinburgh Um bit more detail. Think back to. To their data, which are more time slipped and and you seen game the end of the curve and I will highlight here that in the number of the slides the staff numbers, proportions testing positive in miniscule different universities have different reporting mechanisms. None have reported any big staff effects at correlated. With student effects early to set early to say. Conclusively, at the moment what would happen with the introduction of face to face teaching, but there are no signs at the moment from those who have been doing face to face teaching that there is a big issue here. So let me move away from. Death by Power Point to speaking about knew Technology set that is being put forward together with the social intervention and that mass asymptomatic serial testing. So this had to leave for size off to the Health Protection Board, and many others are working tirelessly at the moment with the original responses. Test tracing contained is done in the University as part of the wider public health response. Wanted public health system is currently considering 22 offers of technologies, one lamp technology. It's it's a well tried and tested technology that's just come out of trials in Southampton for testing series of saliva samples. So spit in the tube, send it off to a lab, takes 60 to 90 minutes to go through the machine. 6 machines are being delivered. To Liverpool, we're looking at how to staff those at the moment that will be no mean feat, so it means a lot of staffing, but a lot of people are putting a lot of effort in to make sure that we have capacity. We sweat those 24 hours a day could be around 200,000 tests for week available in the report from the Spit in a tube test. There's a spit on a device test. Or swap your tonsils or part way into your nerves are squiggle that inner tube with some liquid in it, and then pour that onto a device at another technology that's that's less proven. For good, pick up the lump. Technology I talked about earlier that requires the laboratory. Value that is more sensitive. Can be other technology where you just read off a result from piece of kit system as a whole. Is considering this at the Maps of Liverpool City region in Tier 3 responses have been prioritized by government for thinking about how would we use mass test? What is the appropriate interval for testing how? Could we adapt? How does policy need to change to allow people to release from isolation based on serial test results? How can we reboot parts of the social fabric of our region by giving people that hope? So there's a big technical challenge at the moment where we will need help from all of you. Been thinking of how this highly experimental application of mass serial asymptomatic testing works will have specific targets like home for Christmas students and what is the most appropriate use of that technology to minimize the amount of isolation? That students would have to do. But I'm conscious that this is also big awareness. Raising it a big social experiment. And we say this three principle components are getting through this. Hope, trust and kindness and and including forgiveness and kindness. Many of us are pressing the need for deep look at the behavioral science. Around any proposed maneuvers, not just the technology. OK, so if you have any questions about that, I see a number of come in. To the Q&A. I'd like to move now. At 2 Lawrence to talk about preparing ourselves for these kind of situations, Lawrence. You can, hopefully you can all hear me. I you might have seen me frowning a bit because I'm getting a message on my computer saying unstable connection. So I you freeze and then I get your information very very quickly, but hopefully you can hear me your end. OK, so Tom and Ian asked me to talk about a couple of things. One what we'd already done and one was around the possible things we may be needing to think about in terms of staff and students. And so the first thing that I sort of wanted to make people aware of, if they weren't already, was the sort of good news. Wear red. Check Terry's which some of you may be familiar with. Answer To be helpful in relation to a lot. In the first instance, our medical students that were very bravely going forward to the sort of frontline to to intervene and assist, and so we put together a package of. Law. Be more than actually Denise is team helped a great deal with this at short notice. We unreasonably lens on them and sort of jockey them to help us produce stuff. So we just stuff on decision making communication PTS di stress and resilience and so on. And that went down rather well and at the same time we developed with some of our colleagues in the military. Some intervention packages to track and supports resilience in the long term, so if we sort of think about crisis as being three stages, which is preparation, adaptation and coping. Initial phase of Ares was to look at preparation and adaptation, and we developed a tool which went to various different organizations, not just some of our Med students, but actually had considerable success. Although hey, so there's now. I think it's around 4000 staff that have been training all the hay and supported massively by wonderful student called Sarah. Robertson, he's one of Ross is team. Actually he's done just unbelievable and unfillable George job of rolling that out all day. The objective of it really was. Several things, one to show support to the individuals that we're delivering that difficult activities. The in ICU's and beyond. Secondly, to enhance resilience an three to track intervention adaptations that people were coming up in various different parts of all the hey whether that be in theaters or somebody admin teams and so on. 'cause all in difficult times. And it's very easy to focus on the things that were struggling with, but actually resilience and most people are relatively resilient. Ready to stamps to different situation. Rolled out all the hay and there has been some analysis and evaluation of it and it seems to be proving its worth. Certainly in that environment I've had subsequent conversations around the corridors of this around whether there may be some utility in that. First are for the rest of us that are sort of struggling with this pandemic at the moment, and I think we're sort of in the phase now of. Well, we've braced ourselves for the. The sort of worst of it, and now I see the issue as being this issue of chronicity. When's it going to end? What does it look like? What is the new normal look like? How long is it going to go on for etc etc? And I can only speak with any authority in relation to the work that we've done with military, which is, you know, some of these guys and girls run deployments for sort of six months at a time. They'll come back for a couple of weeks and then they suddenly be asked to go back and watch the high stakes high consequences and so on. So what we know from the military is there's kind of four pillars. This is massively simplifying that the research on this, but four pillars that need to be taken care of with some degree of regularity and consistency, and they are having a sense of purpose and meaning. Taking care of basic functions around health, which includes diet and physical activity, a sense of joy. So actually doing something which is frivolous, ridiculous, and humorous. Whether that be dancing, singing, drawing or whatever, it is, but something which actually is on the polar opposite of purpose and function. An the fourth thing that I mentioned before was this issue of feedback that you feel however far you are down the food chain that you are able to share messages which are either negative and being able to reach out. To indicate that you're suffering and as well as that. Being able to reach out and say, actually I found this interesting way of adapted benefit from so that activity and I don't propose to speak about it in any great depth unless there are particular questions about it we could consider in relation to either undergraduate cohort or postgraduate cohort, or even indeed the staff, because I think. And again, going back to amazing, I had the other day we often welfare of students and I do think universities done an absolutely outstanding job. Assisting with that and you only need to look at the Corp Comms video that we saw at the start of term, which really does strongly show what efforts the University going to in terms of infection control, but also the compassion of the University is showing towards the students. But I guess my concern is, you know, and we certainly see this in the military. You see some people that are doing very well at the start of a crisis that look as though they're fit for purpose and then we then we see what we call any Q Rs. They're starting to look not quite right after a certain length of time, and that's not always easy to protect, so I guess my main message here is what is it that we can do? Look at that. Launch wedge at the bottom of the triangle. That is not a problem now, but may start to become a problem in six weeks. 8 weeks January February, however long this goes on for and I think there are some things that we can do to assist in that kind of psychological inoculation and resilience building. Thanks, Lawrence. Did you want to introduce the questions? Won't you just want us to pump home having some egg? Garth, do you want to pop up the question? Lovely. So pole. In the past week, thanks. What extent you agree with the following statements? I've eat the healthy diet. I've taken regular exercise. I've been able to share positive things I'm doing with colleagues in the Institute. I've been able to share the negative things I'm feeling with colleagues in the Institute. Could answer those four questions. OK, why are you doing that? Let us take some of the questions that come up in the online system. So. Given that a large proportion of cases yes or asymptomatic, particularly amongst younger people. Will when will the lab have the capacity for one of the reasons that we have said yes as a region to government to the eye center? Tomatic mass testing is. To be able to answer those kind of questions, it requires research that even the technologies have been validated. As a test, the understanding of. The structure of populations haha. Which groups have a larger proportion of asymptomatic cases? How do they change overtime? A lot of the reason for us accepting was to be able to understand that, and I'll offer up and research in that area. Enough test capacity has been bought by government to run. I think 2 tests how weak for around 10% of the time population with one of the technologies. And more we're putting in place so. That will be applied. In ways that are very disciplined in the rollout, it's not an initial validation study of technology, but it is an experimental rollout. So we will be able to look much more at those patterns. So the science behind Covid secure buildings. I was public health experts, clinicians. Are we satisfied with good with cards secure? This takes evidence from around the world in terms of the environmental modifications, the examination of outbreaks. Follows national guidance of what must be done at national guidance on what is best practice and then University of Liverpool is added to some. Further R. Count on top of that. To put in place measures that are stronger than in many institutions. Hello. There was a question on face to face research which showed did you want to pick that one up, Joe? I can, so the question was is face to face Research Institute going to commence under Tier 3 restrictions so I can answer this from the basis of psychology where we have a lot of lab based research and the answer there is yes, as soon as all the systems come together. So as I mentioned the building is covered secure. Before actual apps have reduced capacity, they have one way routes. They have. Cleaning systems defines an Nicola Williams work, so that risk assessments are being updated. We have induction process is we have process is for bringing participants into the building. One thing we can't control is ethics approval. Obviously all projects will need ethics and that needs to be updated to request permission to commence face to face research. There's a system that's on the. It's only ethics pages. On the website, there's a form to complete that we have no control over that, but we're ready to go as soon as projects have that ethical approval. Then we have the systems in place for this to occur in it covid secure manner. So PPA, social distancing, temperature checks. All those things are in place, so we're working as quickly as possible to get that going. And no, the VC sends an email to the end of last week. I think to PhD students. To indicate that you were trying to reduce PhD student presence, we are working in that vein. But we also aware that a lot of our PhD students require access to very specific kits and assemblies that they can only do in the labs. So provided they have backing from their supervisors to say that that's required, and it can be achieved with all the ethics, everything in place, we are also supporting the PhD students to come in in a structured process. So I think we can do we are doing. Even at Tier 3. Thanks channel. Since then, as an important question about workload, we've acknowledged the huge efforts people have gone to. To make this pivot to two online and that is those efforts are still being made, so the points are well taken from Marie here about workload and we want to keep a very careful watch on that. And that's why we're asking some of these questions, so the results here. Come through. Healthy diet. Well, that's that's that's a higher proportion. Then I was expecting that they get that my bias from the the biscuit tin lid is very loose in this household. Regular exercise. It's an interesting distribution. I think we'll see people. These distributions were becoming increasingly multimodal, and that's what we want to dig into. What were some people? Suffering with Cold house health consequences. With all of the changes, the novels, what we're committed to mitigate. Being able to share the positive things that I'm doing with colleagues in the Institute. That's. It's good to hear that the communication channels. There are working. But we could always. Work hard working for most. But there are more barriers. To communication at the moment and they don't have. That human contact that we. We need. So as we use that same mass testing to allow people to come back. And as we find out ways that we can. Reopen smartling. This is an important consideration to start digging into, but I need to communicate in different ways and just do. So being able to share the negative things again, it's good that that's the majority of people being able to share it. Negative things, but. Again, more can be done if you have concerns. With detail and if you have solutions to how you think we could be addressing those concerns. Please communicate now. With someone you work with. I get those messages through. Because we are listing these results, will will now inform more detailed questioning. So thank you for those. Would my colleagues colleagues like to make any further comments? On our approaches again. Just just to add in that we are actively in the process of putting together a survey for the Institute's. As I mentioned earlier, so we want to work with sort of Lawrence and his team to and others who have expertise in this area across the Institute so that we design something that's genuinely helpful for staff and isn't just another thing to do and just a flag as well that I think from the model that we ask these questions specifically, because I think these are the questions that. Are used in the sort of prolonged crisis settings working with teams, so we'll talk with Lawrence and colleagues about how we might embed these questions as kind of regular health checks within teams. 'cause I think this works effectively when we ask these questions continually of ourselves and within our teams rather than just sort of one off isolated event. So learn to learn and he want to add to that. Yeah, I was going to say what we can do, I think. Either I shared with you and the results that we've got from Alder Hey, but I'm very happy to to share what we did with all the hey how it works, what the benefits were. I mean, I do know that all the hey there where the main benefits were was actually in theater, so people that were hands on an working together a small teams. That said, there were benefits to a lot of people that were working remotely in administrative and professional service roles so but I'll, I'll touch base with Tom and perhaps Ross as well and others that would be useful to wrap a team around this so that we can. I mean, what we don't want is just another thing for people to fill in. It's gotta gotta have utility and function. RC and simplicity, but we can work on something that may be elegant and actually useful and productive. Thanks Lawrence, at that's a good way to underline this this whole forum. That we are applying good theory as you've applied in Aries. Grounding is but the uptake has been excellent. The outcomes, as they're emerging seem very strong, but we have many questions that really make us think about the difference between Association and causation. Are many natural experiments happening at the moment? That can turn into designed experiments as we bring in. New ways of responding and we introduce those in a much more experimental framework. The role of this Institute. In the wider societal response, going forward to smart release, I think will be extremely important. So that's us at the hour. Thank you for joining us. And we look forward to seeing you at the next forum. We hope you keep well, thank you.